TargetProcess under open source license?

I’ll share some thoughts about TargetProcess future here. The existing version is free for now (don’t worry, it will be always free :), but it is planned to release next version as a commercial product. We just should make some money to survive.

I like open source. And the commercial release will be shipped with source code. But I wonder if the free “light” version could be released under an open source license. Will anyone improve the system? How much effort additional coordination will take? Will anyone buy commercial version while there is already free edition that could be improved? As you could see, I have some doubts.

What do you think? I am especially interested in whether anyone wants to make some improvements? There is a chance that TargetProcess will turn to an open source project, but I am not sure for now. Post your comments to influence my opinion.

11 thoughts on “TargetProcess under open source license?”

  1. I would like to contribute to an open source effort. One of the first enhancement I can think of is to replace the User Story Description Text Box with a Rich Text Editor (maybe http://www.freetextbox.com). Also, there were some refinements to be made with focus handling while entering User Stories.

    I would also like to see something where a developer can track actual hours spent on a story.

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  2. Fine. One vote for open source!

    Rich Text Edit is already implemented. It will appear in new release. Time Tracking is also planned for the new release, but its implementation is not started yet.

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  3. Hi Michael,
    I belong to a .NET community (http://www.tjnet.org) from Mexico and we just start to plan an open source project to manage software development when a memeber bring Target Process to our forum. Personally I think it’s a great project by the way it handle the software development, but also we want to add more features to it. So thinking a little bit about what you say, we can help you with the project by contributing code, testing, and proposing new features; or maybe we can adopt the project in case you can’t continue with it, so in this way we will not start a project from nothing.
    Also there is a way to make money from an open source project by making a business like mysql (http://www.mysql.com) or sugarcrm (http://www.sugarcrm.com) they charge by a commercial version (that include support), training, conferences, and so on but also they keep the Open source version with almost but not all the features of the commercial version, so you control the open source version and the commercial version (in this case I hope you give us the exclusive in Mexico, just kidding).
    So what you think about it?

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  4. This is great! But my companions do not very enthusiastic about open source for now. I’ve checked sugarCRM and it seems a very good example of commercial open source.

    I think we will release next version and than make a decision about open source.

    Thank you for suggestion!

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  5. I personally am a big fan of Open Source software – not because of the cost issue, but because of the way I want to consume software. I do not want to be sold to, I want to be able to evaluate products without time restrictions (I am busy. Too busy to keep track of the expiry date of a piece of software I’m playing with), and with full sight of the product – not some limited subset.

    Having said that, I think many projects which have gone “Open Source” are not getting a huge amount of community support. In addition, the skills required to manage an Open Source initiative are subtly but vitally diferent to those required to manage a project internally – personalities, politics and the level of commitment are all different.

    For me, the answer is – if you release Target Process as Open Source, it would make me happy. If I feel the need to scratch an itch (time tracking is a big itch, and the main reason we’ve decided not to use TP) I would be happy to contribute my code back to the project, but I don’t think I can commit to much more.

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  6. We are currently looking for an agile tool. We’ve looked at Rally and VersionOne. For us, the most important thing is to have a piece of software that is simple and reliable – it must work all the time as this becomes mission critical.

    Having source code availabe in a reasonably priced product is fine for us if it means that the developers can and will continue to improve it. We’d like to spend our coding hours working on the software we sell and not having to work on our tools.

    Some improvements: is it worthwile to have tasks subordinate to stories, and also to add the developer feedback for actual time to complete the task?

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  7. I would like to help making TagetProcess even better. I am an experienced .NET developer and a current user of TargetProcess but we are currently considering swicthing to VersionOne:XP because the lack of permission control.

    BTW: Foolish that non Blogger users cannot comment without being Anonymous.

    Lars Buur (lars_REMOVE_ME_@hubia.dk)

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  8. >I would like to help making TagetProcess even better.

    There are already several people who want to help with TargetProcess development. It really surprises me, I didn’t expect such an interest…
    This is great! But as I’ve already mentioned, the final decision will be taken after the next release (at the end of January or so). However, your proposals affected my opinion and I am more confident in making TP an open source product.

    >I am an experienced .NET developer and a current user of TargetProcess but we are currently considering swicthing to VersionOne:XP because the lack of permission control.

    Could you explain why permission control is required? I believe that permissions are not very good idea for agile teams (any tool will not help team without trust). But maybe I am missing a point…

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  9. – Could you explain why permission control is required?
    – I believe that permissions are not very good idea for
    – agile teams (any tool will not help team without
    – trust). But maybe I am missing a point…

    Maybe permissions control is not the correct term. My problem (and others I suspect) is that I would like to have multiple projects with different customers running in one system and on one server. When I make a customer part of a team on one project then the customer can access all the other projects and maybe get access to information that should be disclosed.

    Kind regards

    Lars Buur

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  10. >>When I make a customer part of a team on one project then the customer can access all the other projects and maybe get access to information that should be disclosed.

    Yes, this is very helpful feature. It will be implemented in the next release (this month).
    Thanks for the suggestion!

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  11. I think an Open Source release would be really great. There’s tons of small things that I would do at this exact moment if I had source code. No huge changes, but small things, like adding a sort to the column headings of the user stories, or a filter/search for all the data. The lists can get long with big projects and sorting on primary key is just not enough. Even if i could just modify the queries!

    Without that kind of ability, I’ll likely end up dumping the data to XLS from the SQL server manager and modifiying to my heart’s content in Excel until it’s more or less set and then reimport and actually do all the tracking in TargetProcess.

    It may sound like I’m being picky, but the product is really good! It has the potential to offer a small team what we need without being overly complicated and cumbersome–like every other package available for project management.

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